We're pleased to bring this Detroit native and ex Mormon Missionary to the site. He's got a show opening up at Receiver Gallery here in San Francisco July 8, 2006 showing new works alongside Deedee Cheriel, (LA) Jeff Eisenberg (SF), Amanda Lynch (SF), and Keli Reule (SF)... Take a few minutes to read his interview conducted by artist Chris Pew. -Trippe
"Godhead"
22" x 30"
color pencil, marker, and pen & ink on paper
Chris Pew: Could you please introduce yourself. The who, what, where, why,
when, and how if you will?
Casey Jex Smith: So I'm originally from Detroit, but was raised in Salt Lake City.
After a year of design classes at Brigham Young University, I spent
two years in Brazil as an LDS missionary (white shirt, tie, name tage,
aka Elder Smith). Back from Brazil, parasite free, switched majors to
fine arts and got my BFA in Painting and Drawing. For a year, I worked
as a cook at a care center for mentally and developmentally disabled
elderly folk while I put together my portfolio and applied to grad
schools. The San Francisco Art Institute was the only school I got
accepted to.
Can you explain your experiences at art school. Your times at
Brigham Young University and your recent MFA from the SF Art Institue?
I don't know if you've heard of the Princeton review, but it ranks
universities in atypical categories. BYU has been the reigning #1 most
religious school in the country while SFAI rounds out the top 10 least
religious. Besides that, not much of a difference between the two.
Loved them both.
I understand you work at a hotel. How long have you been working
there? How does this effect you being able to work on art? Do you
find it easy to seperate these things? Or would you prefer a
lifestyle where everything you do is about or involved with your art?
I've been working at the Woodfin Suites Hotel in Emeryville for about
8 months. It's my pennance for choosing an art career. I'm sure many
out there know how it feels. We get all of Pixar's visitors at our
hotel, and I get to check them in and send softer pillows to their
rooms. So I guess I am involved in an art field in some way.
Your work also exemplifies your talent for being able to draw, have
you ever thought about going into commercial art? Be it editorial,
graphics, illustration or advertising.
I do some freelance illustration on the side for Williams Sonoma. I'm
currently working on a drawing for a plate that spotlights a variety
of winter vegetables. You know, squashes, carrots, turnips, and beets.
I did their last Christmas collection. A dope pen & ink winter
wonderlandscape with Santa Clause silhoutted against the moon. I like
the people and they pay handsomely.
Do you hope to one day be a full time artist?
......(tear dripping down his cheek)....sniff....snifff....
Do you plan out your art concepts and layouts? Or do you just start
drawing and let it flow?
A bit of both. I usually start with some reference material. Most
often a bad piece of illustration from a religious publication. I then
react against it in a way that I think is more appealing. And that
always consists of some space to let things flow however they will.
The immediacy of drawing is great for that.
Your work seems to cross a few different styles. Some abstract
geometry morphing into buildings, somewhat like the Russian
Constructivists, along with some hyper detailed markings of clouds
and nature which reminded me of some Bruce Connor drawings. You've
combined these styles and brought your own accounts into your work.
How did this come to be?
I enjoy doing work in different styles and it fits my content. I see
no reason to not put down anything that comes to mind unless it's a
poor choice. I'm so glad you mention Bruce Connor, because his
collages have had a big influence on me over the last couple years.
His recent show at Paule Anglim was phenomenal. I was so pleased to
see someone recontextualize those old religious etchings in a reverent
way. (I already feel like I have to apologize for using the word
"reverent")
With recurring elements of cathedrals, temples, clouds, fire and
the consideration of the titles of a lot of your work, such as,
"Heaven's Floodgates Open" or "Towards a New Zion," there seems to be
a certain level of spirituality involved with your work. Would you
mind explaining your thoughts on art and spirituality? As well as how
it relates within your work?
Art is never the thing. It points somewhere. Where it points depends
on the viewer. Most on hearing the phrase "art and spirituality" will
shudder while some might get a spine tingler. A James Turrel sculpture
can be felt as "spiritual" or "sublime". Your choice. It's both, and
neither. I hate myself.
How do art and spirituality relate to each other?
Don't. No more than plumbing and spirituality. So I guess they do.
Everything is related to spirituality.
What is spirituality?
Making meaning.
Where does it lie?
In the crust.
In the creative process?
Drawing. Sometimes painting. Never performance or sculpture.
(photography doesn't even deserve to be mentioned)
In the artist?
Mormon artists.
"Church Drawings"
(done during my church meetings over the last several years)
bic pen on paper
8" x 6"
Spirituality goes along with absence of the ego. Do you put this
concept in your art? Does it relate to your life and career as an
artists?
Humans are selfish. We want to pleasure ourselves 24/7. Anytime we can
put off the ego, we'll be better off. Art included. Most people know
this and try to do it. But the Xbox games keep getting better and
better. Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion !?! It's so hard.
Interpretation relating to your life? Or are you telling a story of
what you see around you, meaning spirituality in our culture?
Yes and yes. Any personal struggle or triumph or ordinariness is not
unique to me. Nor is the Old Testament only a history of the Jews five
thousand years ago. Suffering and joy are universal concepts (although
some suffer more than others, and that's why there must be a God or
not, depending on your spin)
"Church Drawings"
(done during my church meetings over the last several years)
bic pen on paper
8" x 6"
I understand that you been asked to participate in the "Sampling Oakland"
show at Yerba Buena. Can you explain how that came about?
Caleb Rogers who curates over at LOBOT in Oakland recommended me. I
had shown there a couple of times. It's a very unique space and vibe
there. It's a great model for how art spaces could and should operate.
Very organic in the good sense of the term.
"Tongues of Water in the Garden of Eden"
7.5" x 7.5"
pen & ink and color pencil on paper
With this in mind, I was wondering what you think of the local
Oakland scene, the artists, the galleries, the patrons and the support for
the arts in oakland?
It's been great to see the Oakland Art Murmur get going. I'm suprised
every time by the number of people who come out to support it. A
downfall is the financial pressure to keep those spaces going. It's
seems like right when things are going well, the lease is up and the
rent gets jacked. (33 Grand). I finally got over to Blankspace on 66th
and San Pablo. Great space where Lucky Tackle was. I guess when one
goes down, another one or two pop up. I've got a studio space at Swarm
Studios at Jack London Square with John Casey, Alex Munn and many
other fine Oakland artists. So far, it's been best studio experience
I've ever had. Good people.
Any advice for aspiring artists?
Don't drink, smoke or have pre-marital relations.
Being a fairly recent transplant to the Bay Area, have you had a
chance to explore Northern California?
I've gotten as far as Muir Woods. Beautiful.
///////// casey is off the hook with his art work, if you don't choose his art work you're a loser!!!!!!! Written by minh on 2006-07-06 19:59:14
///////// casey your art is so good it gives me smile everytime i look at it and to top it off i work at the woodfin with you so i see you every day. unfortunately j/k well anyways good work case and this comes straight from the heart. Written by ana rojas on 2006-07-06 20:08:22
///////// holy cow! i really really dig this mans work. good interview too, glad to see spirituality mentioned as its a big part of art (and life) Written by nicholas venaglia on 2006-07-06 20:44:27
///////// You draw very well. Written by jesseedwards.net on 2006-07-06 22:22:46
///////// amazing stuff Written by tintahitam on 2006-07-06 23:19:52
///////// lame. Written by lame. on 2006-07-07 09:24:27
///////// Im taking your advice Written by Dylan on 2006-07-07 09:57:30
///////// do you drink pepsi?
interesting stuff and interview. really like the 3rd one down. thanks for telling me about Kerry James Marshall. Written by critic on 2006-07-07 10:17:57
///////// Amazing work. It was refreshing to see someone stepping out from the norm. Love the mixture between inks and paints on that last piece. Great details as well. Written by Franky on 2006-07-07 10:49:12
///////// pretty decent. some comp. issues. I guess that is the look though. a question for the artist:: do you work in phases, or reword the same drawing until you are satisfied? Written by kkkkkdddd on 2006-07-07 11:15:10
///////// best drawings i've seen for awhile... and i see a lot of drawings. Written by on 2006-07-07 12:20:06
///////// casey. give a holler if youre ever down in the dogpatch.
the new work is starting to grow teeth with a blanket.
i love comp issues. i dont even know what they are. sounds like a bore. who the hell wants resolve? i think hitler did. Written by tierney on 2006-07-07 17:15:22
///////// You obviously cant handle to cover a whole page yet. How will you ever be a pro till you give a 100% You remind me of all the other painters on the features almost.
alot of nonsense that says nothing to me about my life. Written by remix of same ole on 2006-07-07 18:09:11
///////// Tongues of Water in the Garden of Eden is amazing-blows my socks off! About the comp issues I can say this: This brother takes risks all the time in the work, with the comp, with subject, media, marks- many work brilliantly and because he takes these chances the whole scope of his process keeps growing and growing. So I admire his confidence as well as his mad skill. Written by jeff on 2006-07-07 19:33:19
///////// the religion thing is pretty sad. give this guy a chance and he'll have you married off to one of his hot ass lady friends, and twenty years from now you'll all be watchin yer kids go off two by two virgins on their bicycles in their black ties and white shirts with that great little square name tag letting the whole world know LDS still rules. you and he will have stopped painting Sooo long ago neither of you will remember: someone has to get the money for the house for the hot ass mormon wife. Heavenly father wants it that way.
joking aside, if you are an artist, i'll wager you will soon dispense with any form of christianity, but then that's me.
he can draw -- but the head makes me want to look for the handle on the nearest toilet so i can flush/ Written by arturopr on 2006-07-07 21:37:59
///////// Props to SF After I read this interview I was sure there would be tons of "smart" comments about religion etc. Its nice too see that artists aren't hypocritical in expecting tolerance, they can give it as well. One thing I love about SF is that those who live alternative lifestyles (in any form) seem to realize that there is no need for them to oppress others for their beliefs. We all have a lot to contribute and learn form one another. In other communities it seems to be the norm to make degrading comments about others beliefs and then complaining about how society rejects and oppresses their own beliefs. Maybe it is that we all grew up with hippy parents that are comfortable and secure in their skins and didn't feel the need to put down others to deal with their own insecurities. Props to SF. Written by jj on 2006-07-08 13:10:46
///////// I miss albion
you inspire me
the jackasses will one day cut off their own heads
then we will xbox again
Written by poweredbyapathy on 2006-07-08 16:24:35
///////// pretty interesting accept for some accounts of rhetoric...then again on the subject of universiality.. i suppose one could say there are alot of artist's that spit atheist rhetoric... but hey childhood is what makes ya' huh? Written by crustandbutter.com on 2006-07-08 18:25:37
///////// Hi Casey, your works look GREAT! If anytime you would like to publish some in a well printed international mag http://www.rojo-magazine.com , just drop me a line at:
Written by david on 2006-07-09 03:52:20
///////// absolutely love the pencil work very nice mix of urban cultures and abstract forms. loving it! Written by on 2006-07-09 07:56:22
///////// casey jex smith is fantastic. finally, something on fecalface that brings it up a notch. good quality, good style. so rare for this website recently. it's too bad people had to try and ride the "mormon shit talk" wave and insult him on something that seems slightly prevalent in his work, but isnt necessarily worth addressing. it's not like he knocked on your door, bitches. hasnt anyone seen BIG LOVE? Written by mark on 2006-07-09 09:48:41
///////// great art, bogus beliefs. Written by Noah on 2006-07-10 10:15:18
///////// Photogrpahy is an art form, I have seen a ton of images better than your painting. Written by on 2006-07-10 19:57:45
///////// word casey, word! why are the guns blazn' with hate for the mormon? he surely didn't push any agenda. look at the work not the man. Written by pizzer on 2006-07-11 08:53:56
///////// beautiful Written by lerfmangdumn on 2006-07-11 10:12:44
///////// I need to meet more people with three-part names...
Chris, when are you coming down to Rowan Morrison? good interview... good questions. Written by narangkar on 2006-07-11 10:41:28
///////// I love the line work but I think the work needs something I just do not know what that would be. Written by Betsy on 2006-07-11 13:42:22
///////// "I love the line work but I think the work needs something I just do not know what that would be." Written by Betsy on 2006-07-11 13:42:22
^ i feel what betsy's getting at... technically this guy's work is good but much of the iconography and subject matter presented here is stale and uninspired. currently geometric forms are being done to death and this is no exception. coupled with the CAD styled drawings, they look like interesting screen savers but evoke little else from me.
the nature elements are well executed but they are sparse and feel awkward within the design (which i have problems with as well).
nice aspects to some of the work but as a whole, there's not much holding these pieces together and compared to the similar yet far superior work and imagination of Gregory Euclide, im simply not impressed.
Written by cordani on 2006-07-13 11:42:18
///////// I loved checking out this guys' work and felt it tapped into something for me. I felt that the comparison to Gregory's work was a little off base. To me it would be equivalent to comparing Gregory's work to Mars1's work and saying one or the other is superior. Casey seems to be doing his own thing. I also don't know if it is fair to judge the usage of Iconography unless you take the time to understand what these "stale and uninspired" images represent. Your use of the term iconography itself impIies this assumption, for in disciplines such as art history "iconography" usually refers to visual images or signs that have a strong significance to a particular culture, so if you aren't part of this guys culture the images will not generate the same meaning for you. PS. If you do in fact download it for a screen saver you should send the artist a dollar or two. Written by geo on 2006-07-14 15:43:03
///////// This is great stuff! LOve drawing...combination of abstract and representation, natural and geometric, wet and dry media.....combining opposites very satisfying for me. Composition seems spontaneous, if more controlled would not some immediacy be lost? I prefer immediacy. Even interview text and comments are combination of opposities. Written by Joanne Smith on 2006-07-17 13:00:38
///////// i blame drugs Written by bunnydogdog on 2006-07-18 00:32:58
///////// Casey. This is some amazing art! Ps. this is your cousin. Written by aaron, aka babaganoosh on 2006-07-20 08:54:46
///////// Fresh work, just read this interview I like your answers. Your work inspires me from here on. Written by The Empty Phantom on 2006-07-21 23:45:02
///////// im feelin the one with the donkey shitting on jesus' face Written by on 2006-07-24 11:50:50
///////// "im feelin the one with the donkey shitting on jesus' face"
Hey, Jerry Seinfeld, how does being disrespectful have any relevance to the mans obvious talent. Go dig a ditch and bury yourself in it. Your useless. Have fun with your dead-end life.
Casey, I am impressed by you as an artist and as a person... Keep it up. Written by on 2006-07-24 18:25:07
///////// classless Written by on 2006-07-25 13:25:15
///////// its weird how people feel free making such hateful comments about something many hold sacred. I guess you just have to turn the other cheek. Its just suprising that someone would make a comment about fecal on face, very rude. Written by on 2006-07-25 13:30:48
///////// i think this feature is a big waste of time. the artwork is really boring and stuff like this is stretching it too far. so much bullshit out there, raise the bar a little for the sake of artists who's whole lives are drawing. your shit's a joke dude. Written by buzz on 2006-08-01 23:30:08
///////// a lot of repetitious pattern in this artwork- looks like sort of meditation pieces- all rhythms and forms and such things. Written by craig on 2006-08-01 23:32:54
///////// i love it. dude's got some serious talent. Written by on 2006-08-01 23:53:34
///////// this is some of the most inspired, amazing art i've ever seen. thank you for sharing your beliefs-- i respect you even more. Written by on 2006-08-03 02:30:13
///////// though I disagree with you on the sculpture and photography..and whatever that pompous comment was about the mediums. Creativity, spirituality- lies in the perception and actions- in the fundamental process of the mind., not the medium.
Written by Craig on 2006-08-09 06:06:47
///////// mmmmm. the stuff looks great on here. "Tounges of Water" is great. I'm quite impressed and glad to see this article. I need to buy one of these before they become totally unaffordable. Written by tyrone on 2006-08-09 20:57:09
///////// hella gay Written by darryl on 2006-08-11 10:43:32
///////// great. i love your work. thanx for the good advice as well Written by kacey on 2006-08-22 08:55:26
///////// The art is brilliant the artist on the other hand...who knows. Written by Winic on 2006-08-24 18:26:46
///////// this look salot like some woman stuff i think i can spell her name she had a Huge thing at the moma she was in Vitamin P Written by cahbasm on 2006-08-30 10:10:29
///////// inspiration Written by Brenson on 2006-09-05 19:40:21
///////// I really dig the work , nice up and coming talented artist, the fact that people actually take offense at his religious beliefs is hilarious. Who cares? If hes religious, fine...art people are SO opened minded, except about people's religion. Written by moo on 2006-09-16 15:21:12
///////// facinating lines and formations. Written by on 2006-09-19 21:33:47
///////// Casey-your interview was hilarious! "Church Drawings" is definately my fav. collection. PS-this is your other cousin. Written by Ari on 2006-09-26 12:23:18
///////// well done casey, as always, well done Written by suzanne on 2006-10-10 22:27:25
///////// Hey , the drawings kick azzzz. Seriously, I am so stoked to see people more and more use drawing as a medium. I gave up on painting years ago, because I felt drawing was the base form of things, and this artist makes me believe more and more. Oh, Kerry James Marshall, great choice, great influence, and great man. I met him about 4 years ago in Philly during the print art gig, great guy, awesome artist. I gushed like a little girl after meeting him. thanks for the great work Written by RWM on 2006-11-27 20:04:50
///////// nice... but looks like some recent microsoft adds Written by g richter scale on 2006-12-30 21:11:04
///////// it said i posted something that i didn't.
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Free Fridayz: Monkey & The Apocalypse The full title: A monkey eating the Eiffel Tower while ice skating off a cliff wearing a mini skirt and hoop earings during the apocalypse... Might be one of the best Free Fridayz to date.
Mini Interview: Adam Sullivan Paper, scissors, blades, UHU Stic, pens and pencils are what's used to create these great collages from this Ohio based artist.
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